SDA:

Ok — give it a shot. Walk me through that.

Let's go to the “origin” to see if it's “origin” is in the resurrection of Christ.

Show how exegesis of Gen 1—2:3 reveals that the 7th day of Creation week was made a Holy Day for some reason OTHER than what God said.

Or show from God speaking on that same subject in Exodus 20:8—11 how HE identifies the “origin” of the day to be in the resurrection of the dead in Genesis.

Or show that in Mark 2:27 where Christ speaks of the “MAKING” of the day that it was “MADE as a recognition of the fact of Christ's resurrection”.

I am open to seeing the “origin” discussed.

By “comparison” in 1Cor 11 you have the “origin” of the Lord's supper discussed and there the origin is said to “commemorate the Lord's Death until He comes”. There we see that a careful exegetical review of the text shows the origin and shows what it specifically deals with.

I have no problem admitting that God the Son — the Messiah—God (Christ the Creator) IS the origin of the day. In fact it is HE who says what the day is for in Exodus 20:8—11 and it is CHRIST that authors the words of Gen 1—2:3 through His Holy Spirit.

I have no problem at all with the John 1:1—3 idea that Christ IS the creator and all that was done is IN Christ and is OF Christ and has its origin in Christ.

But as wonderful as all that is — I can not just insert whatever I like into the text of Gen 1—2:3 or into Exodus 20:8—11.

GE:

I'm bewailing the fact Sabbath—keepers won't acknowledge the Sabbath its origin in Christ in resurrection from the dead. That's what I'm 'inserting' in the text.

I'm inserting, and wish I could insert it into your convictions, that the Beginning — which is Christ Jesus Himself, and He in resurrection from the dead — is the creation or the making of the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD your God.

You require after that in Genesis 2? Well it's there in every (human) word of it, that describes every act of God there, as an act not of physically creating anything, but of finishing everything God had created : His blessing, His Sanctification : His finishing; His reviving, His resting — these are the works of God of and on the Seventh Day, whereby the Seventh Day became the Sabbath of the LORD your God. these are THE works of God of the “exceeding greatness of His power when He raised Christ from the dead”.

Simple for the eye of faith to see; impossible for the eye not seeing Christ, and not seeing Christ in His resurrection. Always the case, always has been, and always will be like that, unfortunately.

SDA:

So the argument is that Friday of Creation week is the death of Christ and Sabbath is Christ in the tomb resting and not risen — and the 8th day of Creation week is God being raised from the dead??.

Clearly you have to “read that in” to the text apart from anything like “exegesis”.

Wouldn't you have to admit that God did not give that 8th day much attention in the text of Gen 1—2:3 describing the Creation?

It makes for a great metaphorical story for a homily or illustration — but it is not good Bible exegesis.

GE:

Just look at your own words here again: “Let's go to the “origin” to see if it's “origin” is in the resurrection of Christ”.

Just this one point, “walk” us through the whole! Discover the Sabbath's eschatology right here. Come back to these words of yours, and don't again leave from them until you've discovered the true meaning of what you have put into words yourself!

Like before I ask you again: Why won't you accept, let's go to the “origin” and see that the Sabbath's “origin” is in the resurrection of Christ? Can't you see, “The exceeding greatness of God's Power when He raised Christ from the dead” in Genesis, reading, “God on the Seventh Day rested having finished, having blessed, having sanctified having revived Himself”? There’s no point in it I try to do it for you.

SDA:

So the argument is that Friday of Creation week is the death of Christ and Sabbath is Christ in the tomb resting and not risen —— and the 8th day of Creation week is God being raised from the dead??

GE:

Bob, am I blind to see what you see? Goodness! What gives you the idea I suggest an 'eighth day' here? No, I give up! How many times have I conferred with you, putting forth my conviction Jesus rose from the dead on and in the Sabbath Day the Seventh Day of the week ('Saturday')?

Now I think I see what makes you think I meant Sunday, and that is that if He rose from the dead on the Sabbath Day, God must have worked on the Sabbath Day in order to raise Jesus from the dead. And you must think that because you understand Jesus' being in the state of death as God's rest on and of the Sabbath Day. Now I regard that as an abominable idea death could be Jesus' rest of the Sabbath Day. No, Jesus' rising on the Sabbath Day was Jesus' Act of victorious Rest on and of the Sabbath Day.

Unfortunately, tragically, this is what to you people God’s Rest on and of the Seventh Day means,

“At last Jesus was at rest. The long day of shame and torture was ended. As the last rays of the setting sun ushered in the Sabbath, the Son of God lay in quietude in Joseph’s tomb. His work completed, His hands folded in peace. He rested through the sacred hours of the Sabbath day.

.... Now Jesus rested from the work of redemption; and though there was grief among those who loved Him on earth, yet there was joy in heaven. Glorious to the eyes of heavenly beings was the promise of the future. A restored creation, a redeemed race, that having conquered sin could never fall,— this the result to flow from Christ’s completed work, God and angel saw. With this scene the day upon which Jesus rested is forever linked. “For His work is perfect;” and “whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever.” .... the creation Sabbath, the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph’s tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing ....”. The Desire of Ages, chapter 7.

Unfortunately, because at this stage, everything claimed here, is still not finished; is still – if not for the predestination of God – lost.

This is your misfortune, SDA, that you people disregard the resurrection of Christ as were everything finished before and without it; as were there rest before the Sabbath’s Rest of God of the resurrection of Christ from the dead on the Sabbath. You refuse to see; you refuse to acknowledge; you refuse to accept and be set free from the Law by the Fullness of the Law.

I said something like this more or less before, and am obliged to do it here again, that so it must come into the light what the Seventh Day Adventists really believe about Mrs E.G. White. Mrs White said Jesus 'rested' on the Sabbath in the grave; she said Jesus was crucified on Friday, and rose on Sunday. Therefore, no matter what, it's final. So is it because ‘the messenger of the Lord’ has spoken. You people DO place her on par with – in fact, above – Scripture. No explanations help.