Ed
Sutton:
““My point was, that the
"presentation" of the Son to the Father was physical, as well. One
could get sidetracked here, I guess, by relying on a translation or
translations that render Jesus' words to Mary as "Do not 'touch'
me...", I guess, but that is a less than ideal rendering here, IMO. I
suggest that the NASB is much clearer, here, in this
rendering of John 20:17: 17, Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for
I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I
ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" Jn.20:17 – NASB. A short time
after the encounter with Mary, Jesus was "held by his feet" (Mt.
28:9), and he specifically said to the disciples to "Handle Me and
see..." (Lk. 24:39), less than 24 hrs, by any
reckoning, of the encounter with Mary, and later, 'commanded' Thomas to place
his hands into Jesus' side. (Jn. 20: 27)
The point was not "to avoid any 'physical contact'", at all, in His
words to Mary, but rather to announce that His work was of a greater scope,
than Mary was realizing. He was no longer going to be here, 'physically' in the
presence of Mary, in the manner in which she had known, and He was telling her
this, in so many words.”
GE:
I
understand an ‘earthly’ exaltation of Jesus, and more than merely a ‘physical’
one. I don’t see postponement of Jesus’ exaltation to forty days or fourteen
hundred years after His Resurrection (like the Seventh Day Adventists do). His
Resurrection was, Christ’s ‘exaltation’; was, his “Coming”, “in the flesh”, as
John says in four places in his Letters. When Jesus’ “corruptibility”, when his
“mortality”, “put on” “incorruptibility” and “immortality”, Death (was)
swallowed up in – “Victory” – in nothing provisionally or temporarily, but
immediately and instantaneously, “in the twinkling of an eye”. It was “WHEN God
raised Him from the dead”, that God “exalted Him”. It was IN raising Christ,
that Jesus was “raised IN the glory of the Father”. Jesus was “Declared the Son
of God WITH POWER, according to the Spirit of Holiness, BY, the resurrection
from the dead”.
It is
completely immaterial whether Jesus had been touched physically or not on
Sunday morning. How ridiculous the Seventh Day Adventist hallucination is,
become the more glaring the longer Jesus during the forty days before He
ascended, “showed Himself to many” but long had not ‘ascended to the Father’.
He invited Thomas come and touch me, a few hours after He appeared to the
women.
Precisely
what you have said, “A
short time after the encounter with Mary, Jesus was "held by his
feet" (Mt. 28:9), and he specifically said to the disciples to
"Handle Me and see...".”