High Day Sabbath
by Ralph Myers
(answered by Gerhard Ebersöhn)
Ralph Myers:
In regard to the "high day" Sabbath:
This would have been the first day of Unleavened Bread. A Thursday. The 14th day of the first month is the day of preparation for the first Sabbath of the week of Unleavened Bread.
Passover, on the year that the crucifixion took place was on Wednesday. Thursday was a Sabbath day, followed by Friday, and then the weekly seventh day Sabbath. Many have mistakenly applied the "preparation day" to the Friday before the seventh day Sabbath.
While both the day of Passover, and Friday are days of preparation, the reference to being a high day, is referring to the day before the Sabbath of the Passover week; Wednesday.
This all concurs with the astronomical moon record of the
14th day of the month in the year of the crucifixion. Passover was on Wednesday
of that year.
Ralph Myers
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High Day Sabbath
by Ralph Myers
answered by Gerhard Ebersöhn
Ralph Myers:
“In regard to the "high day" Sabbath: This would have been the first day of Unleavened Bread. A Thursday. The 14th day of the first month is the day of preparation for the first Sabbath of the week of Unleavened Bread.”
GE:
Exactly! Your words: “....The 14th day of the first month is the
day of preparation for the first Sabbath of the week of Unleavened Bread. ....”!
The 14th day of the first month is
the day of preparation for the first
Sabbath of:— the week of
Unleavened Bread ....” “bread”
eaten; therefore, “it would be the day of preparation for the” passover’s FEAST day!
I think we agree so
far ....
Then:
“The 14th
day of the first month is the day of preparation:—
for:— the first Sabbath:— of the week of Unleavened Bread ....” “bread”
eaten:— therefore:— “it – the 14th day – would be, the day of preparation for the” passover’s FEAST-DAY which would
be, “the first day of Unleavened
Bread” Abib 15!
I think we still
agree so far .... Seeing we have got to
do with ‘preparation’, the word ‘would’,
is going to be of deciding importance.
Then:
“The 14th
day of the first month” is the day of "The Preparation OF THE
PASSOVER" (Jn19:14) -- and THEREFORE, “the 14th day of the first
month” is the day of “the Preparation
for the first Sabbath of the week of Unleavened Bread” : FOR and OF Passover’s
“sabbath-great-day”:— FOR and OF “sabbath-great-day” FEAST in Jn19:31:— FOR
and OF “sabbath-great-day”-FEAST,
on Abib 15. WONDERFUL!!!
Thank God it seems we
agree on this point!
But now ....
“Passover, on the year that the crucifixion
took place was on Wednesday. Thursday was a Sabbath day, followed by Friday, and
then the weekly seventh day Sabbath. Many have mistakenly applied the
"preparation day" to the Friday before the seventh day Sabbath.”
“Passover, on the year that the crucifixion
took place was on Wednesday.” Pure assumption! From where?
From NOWHERE!
“Thursday was a Sabbath day,” From
where? From pure assumption .... from
pure assumption that “Many have mistakenly applied the
"preparation day" to the Friday before the seventh day Sabbath.”
So, once it has been
decided whether “many have mistakenly applied the
"preparation day" to the Friday before the seventh day Sabbath” or not,
but correctly applied the "preparation day" to
the Friday before the seventh day Sabbath, could we proceed further.
Now how are we going
to settle this discrepancy between us
.... between us, because it does not
exist in Scripture? By bringing into account one very obvious
and very simple statement from the Record:
Mk15:42/Mt27:57 x Jn19:31/38:— Abib 15 and day-of-Burial:— “It having
been evening already / Now when the even was come because it had become The
Preparation already which is The Fore-sabbath .... Joseph went in ....”
Keep in mind Joseph
went in to ask Pilate for the body, “After these things” which were “the
Jews’” request to Pilate before Joseph.
Keep in mind “The night” of the Exodus, “to be solemnly
observed” in which “that which remained” of the passover sacrifice —
Jesus’ body — had to be taken away in the morning of day after “midnight”
with Israel that “went out” on Abib 15, to be burned outside the wicked
city. (Ex16:1 Lv23:6 Nb28:7,33:3, Dt16:1)
The ONLY imagined reason the Wednesday-Crucifixion theory has, for
assuming there had to be an ‘ordinary’ day before the weekly Sabbath is its
ASSUMPTION preparation of the ointments and spices and burial were FORBIDDEN on
the ‘great-day-sabbath’ of the passover while in fact it was COMMANDED integral
part and of the very essence of passover Feast-Sabbath of Abib 15! Take away
the commands of God to
It is just like the
misconceptions regarding the Sabbath Day of the LORD, that in it God did
nothing but rested like humans rest by doing nothing, while in actual fact the
Seventh Day was God’s chosen day : “My Holy” : for the zenith,
consummation and perfection of “ALL THE WORKS of God” in that “On the
Sabbath before the First Day of the week”, God “by the Glory of the
Father raised Christ from the dead.”
“God the Seventh Day RESTED.” “God the Seventh Day REVIVED”
.... HAD IT BEEN SAID ALREADY IN THE LAW! But will anyone believe?
Three days in the New
Testament texts:
All these Scriptures are in PERFECT AGREEMENT in every
respect :
And yes, they have everything to do with the ‘three days prophecy’ BECAUSE :
1A) HERE BEGINS the NIGHT and the FIRST of the
“three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
wherein Jesus ENTERED IN into “the Kingdom of my Father” (Jesus’ Jonah’s
descent to hell) :–
Mk14:12/17; Mt26:17/20; Lk22:7/14; Jn13:1.
1B) HERE BEGINS the MORNING of the FIRST of the “three days”, “according
to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
in which Jesus was delivered and crucified :–
Mk15:1/Mt27:1/Lk23:1/Jn19:14
1C) HERE is the LATE NOON AND MID–AFTERNOON of the FIRST of
the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
when Jesus DIED and was deserted by all :–
Mk15:37–41; Mk27:50–56; Lk23:44–49; Jn19:28–30
2A) HERE BEGINS the SECOND of the “three days”, “according
to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
the day whereon Joseph WOULD BURY the body of Jesus :–
Mk15:42/Mt27:57, Lk23:50–51, Jn19:31/38.
2B) HERE is the NIGHT of the SECOND of the “three days”, “according to
the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
wherein Joseph begged the body, and according to the law of
the Jews – the passover’s law – undertook and prepared to
bury Jesus:–
Mk15:43–46a; Mt27:58–59; Lk23:52–53a; Jn19:31b–40
2C) HERE is the LATE NOON AND MID–AFTERNOON of the SECOND of
the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
when Joseph and Nicodemus laid the body and closed the tomb;
and men and women left for home :–
Mk15:46b–47; Mk27:60–61; Lk23:53b–56a; JN19:41–42
3A) HERE BEGINS the THIRD of the “three days”, “according to
the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
THAT JESUS WOULD RISE FROM THE DEAD ON :–
Lk23:56b
3B) HERE is the MORNING of the THIRD of the “three days”, “according
to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
Pilate ordered a guard “for the third day” :–
Mt27:62–66
3C) HERE is “IN the Sabbath’s Fullness MID–AFTERNOON” of the THIRD of the “three
days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
First Sheaf Wave Offering Before the LORD :–
Mt28:1–4.
4A) HERE begins the day AFTER the “three days” (fourth
day of the passover season) :–
that Jesus WOULD APPEAR on :–
Mk16:1, “When the Sabbath was past ..... they BOUGHT ....”
4B) HERE is the EVENING of this day,
Jn20:1–10 Mary sees the DOORSTONE was away from the tomb (discovers tomb has been OPENED);
4C) HERE is the NIGHT of this day,
Lk24:1–10 “DEEP(EST) DARKNESS” ––– “women with their spices” and ointments go to salve the body; “they found Him NOT” (discover tomb is EMPTY);
Mk16:2–8 “very early (before) SUN’S RISING” ––– women’s return–visit to ascertain; “they fled terrified and told NO ONE”.
4D) Here is sunrise (‘Sunday’ morning),
Jn20:11f, Mk16:9 “Mary had had stood behind” .... saw the gardener (sunrise); “Risen, early (sunrise) on the First Day, Jesus first APPEARED to Mary ....”
Mt28:5–10 “The angel explained to the (other) women (Mt28:1–4) .... As they went to tell .... Jesus met them” (after sunrise).
Mt28:11–15 Guard to high priests.
USE BIBLES OF BEFORE THE TWENTIETH CENTURY – they are not as wangled as the later ones. And compare those ancient translations with the modern ones to see the truth of the older ones!
Objection:
“The same verse you earlier used to assert that He resurrected on the Sabbath, can also be used to assert that He resurrected on Sunday!”
Answer:
If the verse you have in mind is Mt28:1, it CANNOT “also be used to assert that He resurrected on Sunday!”
1) BECAUSE of
all the reasons I have already given from ALL
the Scriptures;
2) BECAUSE of its ONLY CORRECT literal meaning:
“opse de” and in fullness / late on / in
“sabbatohn” of the Sabbath
(“sabbatohn”) the Sabbath’s / Sabbath’s–time’s
“tehi” in the
“epi” very / midst
“phohs” light / daylight / (noon)
“ousehi” in the being
“eis” towards / before / tending / against
“mian (hehmeran) sabbatohn” Acc=excluded First (Day) of the week.
3) Precisely as used in Lk23:54 for Friday “mid–afternoon before the Sabbath”.
4) BECAUSE of the Exodus and Leviticus passover instructions concerning Abib 14, 15, and 16.
5) BECAUSE of Mt12:40 and “three days AND three nights”.
6) BECAUSE of the use of both words, ‘opse’, and, ‘opsia’ in extra- Biblical sources.
THEREFORE:
1) Fifth Day : Wednesday night and Thursday day ––– Abib 14, Remove leaven and slaughter lamb;
2) Sixth Day / “the Preparation WHICH IS the Fore-Sabbath” : Thursday night and Friday day ––– Abib 15, “that which remaineth” carried out and burned (interred);
3) Seventh Day Sabbath “according to the (Fourth) Commandment” : Friday night and Sabbath, day ––– Abib 16, “First Sheaf Wave Offering Before the LORD”.
Mk15:42
Here we have Mark calling one only day, by its two different names, “The Preparation Day”, and, “The Fore–Sabbath” : “The Preparation Day which is The Fore–Sabbath, was.”— Singular (‘Friday’).
And this day was neither “the day before Jesus died”, nor “the day that Jesus died”. It was the day after the day Jesus died!
1) Here we have Mark calling “the day of Preparation”, the day “which is the Fore–Sabbath”, which is the Sixth Day of the week.
2) Here we have in Mark 15:42 it says, “And now when the evening (after sunset) had come already, it already being the Preparation which is the day before the (weekly) Sabbath”— which was the very day of Unleavened Bread— not, “.... the day before the Sabbath (of Unleavened Bread).” Friday was the sabbath of unleavened bread.
Ralph Myers:
“While both the day of Passover, and Friday are days of preparation, the reference to being a high day, is referring to the day before the Sabbath of the Passover week; Wednesday.”
GE:
To which ‘day of Passover’ is the reference to being a high day, referring? To ....
a) Sacrifice-day, “when they always killed the passover”, and, “removed leaven”, “The Preparation of the passover”, Abib 14?
Or, to ....
b) “Feast”, “high-day” of passover “sabbath” of passover, Abib 15?
While both the days of Passover Abib 14 and Friday Abib 15 ‘are days of preparation’, namely:— Abib 14 ‘the day of Passover’-“Preparation of the Passover” (Jn19:14), AND, Abib 15 ‘the day of Passover’-“Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath” ‘Friday’ (Mk15:42 to Lk23:54 and Jn19:31 to 42), the reference: “that day being a high day-sabbath” ‘is referring to’ “that-day-of-high-day-sabbath” ‘before’ “the Sabbath according to the (Fourth) Commandment” Lk23:56b— ‘‘that-day-of Passover-of-high-day-sabbath” ‘before’ the Sabbath of the week; NOT ‘before’ “the Sabbath of the Passover” OR “Wednesday”!!
Basically both theories of a Wednesday- and Friday-crucifixion employ the same misleading method. What the Wednesday-argument amounts to is simply to fuse the two days of Crucifixion and Burial into one and to insert another unwarranted day in between Abib 14 the retrospective day of the Crucifixion having ended before, and Abib 15 the prospective day of Joseph’s undertaking having begun after, implied and demarcated so unmistakably in Mk15:42/Mt27:57 Jn19:31/38 and every Old Testament passover-reference.
The Friday-argument does not insert another day, which might be viewed as an improvement on the Wednesday-crucifixion theory. The common aim of both theories though remains to avoid the inevitable conclusion from ALL Scriptural information Old and New Testament of Jesus’ Sabbath’s-resurrection. The question on which day Christ was crucified is secondary. The issue concerns which day Jesus resurrected on, because it concerns the basics of Christian belief and behaviour.
Ralph Myers:
“This all (the Wednesday crucified standpoint) concurs with the astronomical moon record of the 14th day of the month in the year of the crucifixion. Passover was on Wednesday of that year.”
GE:
And how could any poor ordinary Christian man know whether he is told the truth or just ordinary rubbish?